Comments on: Are content mills immoral? https://www.procopywriters.co.uk/2012/07/are-content-mills-immoral/ Join the UK’s largest membership organisation for commercial writers Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:26:57 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Claire Broadley https://www.procopywriters.co.uk/2012/07/are-content-mills-immoral/#comment-202 Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:26:57 +0000 http://procopywriters.wpengine.com/?p=2128#comment-202 I wrote for one of these sites once, almost as an experiment. The client had split their website into separate jobs: each page was listed separately. So, in theory, a 20-page website could have been written by 20 different people. It was bonkers! On top of that, they paid far more (after fees) than they would have paid me to write the whole thing in one go.

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By: Mel Fenson https://www.procopywriters.co.uk/2012/07/are-content-mills-immoral/#comment-138 Thu, 02 Aug 2012 06:28:44 +0000 http://procopywriters.wpengine.com/?p=2128#comment-138 Hmmm. there are lots of valid points in the article about content mills and I’m a huge fan of driving up rates for ‘proper’ writing. But I do feel a bit uneasy about linking to a particular writer’s blog to humiliate him. Perhaps that wasn’t the intention? But I think as comment #3 for this post shows, that was the outcome.

I originally started out writing on the fringes of the – hideous name alert – ‘Mummy blogging’ community. I was regularly depressed when some perceived misdemeanour or difference of opinion descended into a bitchy fight in the comments box. I would hate to see that start to happen here.

On another note, the argument about writing for peanuts also rages in the world of blogging and journalism. Journalists are outraged that bloggers will write in return for a link, when they have spent years perfecting their craft and want to pay their mortgage. I’ve been on both sides of that debate and there’s a huge difference between a 400 word blog post dashed off in 20 mins and a 1,000 word feature that took 5 hours to write (including interviews, etc.) and editors can tell – and will pay – the difference.

I’ve always thought that we should give the client some credit; the good ones know that if they want quality, they have to pay for it. And If they don’t know that…well there’s always another client.

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By: How to kill content mills | Freelance Copywriter - Alastaire Allday https://www.procopywriters.co.uk/2012/07/are-content-mills-immoral/#comment-130 Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:06:09 +0000 http://procopywriters.wpengine.com/?p=2128#comment-130 […] But Ben Locker raises a very good point over on the Professional Copywriters’ Network — never mind the quality, are content mills immoral? […]

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By: TC/Writer Underground https://www.procopywriters.co.uk/2012/07/are-content-mills-immoral/#comment-117 Thu, 26 Jul 2012 16:41:54 +0000 http://procopywriters.wpengine.com/?p=2128#comment-117 At these prices, it’s probably fair to guess that most of this content is generated after a brief bout of online “research” — it’s essentially someone else’s work, but rewritten enough to

Unless anyone believes you get insight, interviews and actual original thought for a penny a word.

We can only hope that search engines improve to the point that all this pointless SEO copy — an artificial construct if ever there was one — will prove to be less valuable than the cost of generating it (we’re getting close).

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By: Lucy Smith https://www.procopywriters.co.uk/2012/07/are-content-mills-immoral/#comment-111 Thu, 26 Jul 2012 01:11:06 +0000 http://procopywriters.wpengine.com/?p=2128#comment-111 My favourite thing about Copify is, and will always be, the Standard vs. Professional page under their FAQs.

Per-word pricing works for something like proofreading, but with copywriting it often takes more time and effort to write a short piece than a long piece. And, quite apart from the fact that per-word pricing devalues the work to little more than typing, that is why it’s not a fair pricing model.

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By: Mark Mauloni https://www.procopywriters.co.uk/2012/07/are-content-mills-immoral/#comment-109 Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:32:13 +0000 http://procopywriters.wpengine.com/?p=2128#comment-109 I’m not a massive fan on charging on a per word basis. It often leads to the inclusion of words that shouldn’t really appear in the piece. I agree with Ben’s per job pricing model. It makes much more sense. Surely the point of all copywriting is to achieve a goal (e.g. inform, sign-up, sell, etc.) not a word count?

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By: Tom Albrighton https://www.procopywriters.co.uk/2012/07/are-content-mills-immoral/#comment-105 Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:01:24 +0000 http://procopywriters.wpengine.com/?p=2128#comment-105 In reply to Alastaire Allday.

I would pose the question, were your suggestion to do so not so impeccably eloquent in itself.

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By: Alastaire Allday https://www.procopywriters.co.uk/2012/07/are-content-mills-immoral/#comment-104 Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:50:28 +0000 http://procopywriters.wpengine.com/?p=2128#comment-104 Maybe now would be a good time to ask him why he was brand bidding on your company name and on Ben’s name on Adwords (if he doesn’t consider you competitors, that is…)

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By: Tom Albrighton https://www.procopywriters.co.uk/2012/07/are-content-mills-immoral/#comment-103 Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:54:43 +0000 http://procopywriters.wpengine.com/?p=2128#comment-103 In reply to Alastaire Allday.

Based on his email address, I can confirm that Rob is the real deal.

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By: Alastaire Allday https://www.procopywriters.co.uk/2012/07/are-content-mills-immoral/#comment-102 Wed, 25 Jul 2012 11:22:26 +0000 http://procopywriters.wpengine.com/?p=2128#comment-102 If Rob, above, is indeed genuine, it’s interesting how he attempts to justify his company’s service.

I couldn’t help crack a wry smile at his use of the line “hassle free!” at the end of his pitch, just like a certain popular payday loans company.

Just because you take the “hassle” out of it doesn’t mean it isn’t exploitative. Just because you don’t have to deal with clients, or send out invoices, doesn’t justify paying people 1.5 p a word.

There’s a joke up on Sickipedia at the moment:

My boss pulled up in his brand new BMW today and I couldn’t help but admire it.
“Nice car,” I said as he got out.
“Well,” he said, noticing my admiring looks, “Work hard, put the hours in, and I’ll have an even better one next year.”

Congratulations, Rob. You are that guy.

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